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Star Trek vs Star Wars by RBL-M1A2Tanker Star Trek vs Star Wars by RBL-M1A2Tanker
I've always been a fan of crossovers like this. At least crossovers that are pulled off correctly, but I digress.

Created this with Jasc Paint Shop Pro and Ulead PhotoImpact. It was this hodgepodge piece that I started to learn some of the more intermediate skills of Paint Shop Pro, using layers, opacity, properties, creative lighting and so on.

Again used several images to create this.

Edit: There is to be no fanwanking about the various technical details about how this side can do this and that side can't, or vice versa. They are two different universes and they need not conform to one another. I don't want a debate on the merits of either side and I am not going to entertain one. If I see a comment heading into that territory, I'm going to ignore it and hide the comment. This image is purely theoretical and fun, that is all. Accept it as such, or move on.
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BOBSZY Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2010
Cool!

Star Wars is done for. ;p
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JosunTomoro Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009
From the visuals of space combat in Star Wars and Star Trek, that link has it right. (I like how Mamimum Effective range gets repeated :)

BTW, I love the picture. I also want to state something interesting.

I learned this by reading Wikipedia(cant remeber if this was the franchise wiki page for SW or something else) But the EU is, to Lucas, considered to be more Sub-Cannon then cannon (comparable to the ST books which are supposedly NOT cannon unless there recounting actual episodes)

Lucas's vision for Star Wars begins with Episode I and ends with Episode VI. To Lucas, thats where his story, his vision of SW ends. The Emp dies, and Peace and good win. YAY!!

Anywho, the Expanded Universe is called such because it is NOT Lucas's universe. He lets people take his ideals and expand upon it, but they arent considered CANNON to lucas.

Personally, I think we should have asked Rodenberry and Lucas to make a movie together before Rodenberry died that would finish it once and for all by having something completely unexpected happen :)
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RBL-M1A2Tanker Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009
What link do you speak of?
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JosunTomoro Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009
Im fairly certain its hiding somewhere in this wiki page.

[link]

I mightve worded it wrong. I think the ideal is that the movies are the straight goods cannon, while anything past that is gradually open to interpreation... FOUND IT!!

"There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There’s my world, which is the movies, and there’s this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe – the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don’t intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don’t get too involved in the parallel universe."

and

STARLOG: "The Star Wars Universe is so large and diverse. Do you ever find yourself confused by the subsidiary material that's in the novels, comics, and other offshoots?"
LUCAS: "I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions."

and another one,

TOTAL FILM: "Are you happy for new Star Wars tales to be told after you're gone?"
LUCAS: "I've left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That's because there isn't any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn't at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."

Basically, those three statements right there essentially nullify the cannonity of anything outside the movies and the TV shows Lucas is working on. Sorta, depends on your perspcetive
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RBL-M1A2Tanker Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2009
Actually there's much more detail to follow here in regards to what's canon and whats not in Star Wars: [link] That article goes into more depth specifically in regards to George Lucas and Star Wars canon.

A quick excerpt:
Lucas' statements in Starlog were commented on in a December 7, 2005 post on the starwars.com forums by Leland Chee, who maintains Lucas Licensing's continuity database:

CHEE: "GL is certainly not bound by the EU, though he's certainly open to using things created in it (Aayla Secura and the Coruscant name, for example). On the other hand, the quote you provide makes it sound like the EU is separate from George's vision of the Star Wars universe. It is not. The EU must follow certain tenets set by George through the films and other guidelines that he provides outside of the films."


Lucas's statements don't contradict/nullify anything really. He's speaking on the story of Anakin Skywalker, which is what the 6 films were about, his story. And when Lucas was finished with that, well, as he said, the story was done. For him, he's told his story, but he knows that there's thousands of other stories taking place at the same time, and he's ok with that.

Which makes a certain amount of sense to be honest.
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Cymraige Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009
*insert Trekkie Uber-ship nonsense vs Death Star* Watch BOTH universes die! Mwuahahahahahahahahahah!


Ok, maybe a bit carried away on that one. . .
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RBL-M1A2Tanker Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009
Maaaybe a little bit. ;p
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